Subject	Deatschwerks injectors flow sheets are incorrect
Posted by	hellraz0r1337 on May 15, 2012 at 4:04 PM
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Message	Hey so first time posting here and ive seen everywhere that deatschwerks injectors are a so-so product and that some people have had great success with them and others hate the things and wouldnt even use them to stop the coffee table from rocking..... Well i decided to waste my money on a set of 740CC side feed injectors for my 93 TT. After i recieved the set i was impressed they looked good all OHM tested exactly at 12.1 ohms solid across all 6. The flow sheet said all injectors flowed with in 5cc of each other and were a perfectly balanced set. WRONG... REALLY WRONG. I called jwt technology they insisted that i send my ECU and the set of injectors out to them so they can flow test before the tune for the 740cc. They flow tested the injectors and wow were they all over the place a the base injector pulse. they ranged from 670cc,685, 681, 705,679, and 680. WOW seriously? thats horrible what am i gonna do tune for 670 and run super rich in 5 cylinders at idle? talk about horrible low end. Cant tune for 680 than ill run lean in a cylinder and risk detonation. So i sent the injectors to deatschwerks and they flow test them in the lab what do you know they all flow at 723CC solid talk about the most BS flow sheet you can believe. They than email me with the worlds most BASIC ass flow sheet with no injector numbers just the CC amount. and the pulse with of 9ms.... and also asking me where id like my injectors sent to. Now personally i believe jwt #'s cause there a repubable shop with tons of Z expierence and have no reason to deny that these injectors are flowing that rate. They arent trying to sell me any thing or jack up double rates THEY EVEN OFFERED TO TEST THE SECOND SET FREE if i got a rma on the first set. what would you folks do. I want to tell them that if this set is ok than you guys keep it and resell it i want a brand new set anyways do you think they would do that? Do i just throw them in and have jwt tune for the lowest CC injector and run slightly rich everywhere else? i cant afford a new set of Nismo injectors until i save up (AKA 1000 dollars at about 150 a month..... idk im not a damn math wizard lol) but its summer and boost is more important than boners... well they go hand in hand (no pun). Give me some advice guys help me out let me know what i should do or what you think. YOU CANT HAVE CHEAP FAST AND RELIABLE in the same sentence with a 300zx
Follow Ups	Deatschwerks injectors flow sheets are incorrect - hellraz0r1337 16:04:04 05/15/12 Re: Deatschwerks injectors flow sheets are incorrect - MaxxAction 16:16:28 05/15/12 what did you expect? - WhiTTe Z 16:20:48 05/15/12 s.e.a.r.c.h would yield Deatschwerks=garbage injectors. - samsung-Z [Houston] 16:23:20 05/15/12 I wouldn't do a tune for them that's for sure. - Draker (Eugene, OR) 16:30:01 05/15/12 If the DWs don't work out then buy a used set of Nismos - NextZ 17:03:02 05/15/12 DOUCHEworks.... - ZXoltan 16:31:00 05/15/12 Get rid of them. - SimaYi 17:26:26 05/15/12 You are risking more than injectors if you run them... - dpjax 17:44:46 05/15/12 lol. you are out of your mind for trying them. - Antihero 17:52:13 05/15/12 Momma raised a he'll raiser. No regrets - dogpile 18:14:46 05/15/12 Lol, nice! (n/m) - Markz (Tampa) 19:08:31 05/15/12 Realize that most injector companies suck at matching - CoHPhasor 18:25:23 05/15/12 What's the general consensus on JECS 750cc injectors? - Markz (Tampa) 18:58:24 05/15/12 Why do u suppose they're $400 less than Nismos? (n/m) - ZXoltan 19:01:37 05/15/12 Not sure but I'll take a stab..... - Markz (Tampa) 19:07:29 05/15/12 Only problem is they start out as 270's and end up as 750's - ZXoltan 19:47:46 05/15/12 If that's true than Z1 has false or unclear (at best) - Markz (Tampa) 20:10:41 05/15/12 Maybe the Ebay JECS are modified and flow tested - Markz (Tampa) 20:17:38 05/15/12 Look at nismo injector tips and then look at the jecs tips - ztunerz 09:48:49 05/16/12 I don't physically have them to look at....what would I see? - Markz (Tampa) 10:14:29 05/16/12 very well known tuners have said Z1 is flat lying. - Antihero 21:16:42 05/15/12 Makes you wonder if Z1 is reselling the FIVEOMOTORSPORTS - Markz (Tampa) 21:33:19 05/15/12 :) (n/m) - ztunerz 09:47:04 05/16/12 "What's the difference?" is an inane question. - CoHPhasor 21:16:22 05/15/12 So NISMO injectors are manufactured by JECS (to NISMO's - Markz (Tampa) 21:24:16 05/15/12 This is a fact. - Antihero 07:28:25 05/16/12 subaru forums convinced me - hellraz0r1337 09:35:03 05/16/12 Re: subaru forums convinced me - hellraz0r1337 11:14:20 05/17/12 They are crap. They are drilled and are very inconsistent. - MixManMash 07:47:03 05/16/12 yup id is the shit, they test a bunch of injectors - Z32TT-R 08:26:22 05/18/12 You know what's crazy, is that Deatschwerks is a respected - BigTDogg (MA) 20:23:07 05/15/12 I wouldn't buy them again, but the 740 side feeds in my LGT - zgene4 20:45:16 05/15/12 Yeah, unsure what I'll use for my upgrade. - BigTDogg (MA) 20:59:45 05/15/12 Lol, I knew you'd come around (n/m) - zgene4 07:37:20 05/16/12 Suby's are side-feed? - CoHPhasor 03:04:21 05/16/12 Dunno, my only experience is with the side feeds - zgene4 07:36:27 05/16/12 They used to be fine but in the past 3 years the quality - ztunerz 09:50:21 05/16/12 People are still buying them and claiming they tune fine - BigTDogg (MA) 10:16:18 05/16/12 Yeah not so good anymore. (n/m) - ztunerz 17:26:32 05/16/12 I do agree with this statement. - TheSlimOne 12:28:34 05/16/12 Wait, it craps out @ 13psi? As in "leans out"? (n/m) - CoHPhasor 19:57:34 05/16/12 WB doesn't show anything weird. It's not detonation. - TheSlimOne 07:28:35 05/17/12 What I've seen with drilled injectors is that they give - MixManMash 15:29:24 05/18/12 Nuff Said - hunterg 12:50:06 05/16/12
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